Post by timo on Nov 26, 2011 22:08:59 GMT
I'd have no problem with creationism being taught as part of say, a comparative religions course alongside say, the Chumash creation story. It's kind of cool:
www.indianlegend.com/chumash/chumash_001.htm
Neat!
As for whether or notcreationism intelligent design should be taught as a part of the science curriculum, I don't think so. There's just not a lot of reason to justify including it as if it's some sort of legitimate counterpoint to evolution when its proponents don't seem to be interested in doing original research. Here's a pretty damning little anecdote from a while back:
www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/weekinreview/04good.html
And while there are a handful of peer reviewed papers and books on ID, they rarely contain original research. It seems to me that if ID proponents want to change the conversation we're having or get their views in the classroom then they need to work on beginning to change the scientific paradigm in academia first. But that probably won't happen since ID proponents don't appear to be interested in actually doing science. Instead, they seem to prefer to complain to Ben Stein about how they're being somehow persecuted in a misleading documentary.
Peace
The first people were created from the seeds planted on Limuw (Santa Cruz Island) by Hutash, the Earth Goddess. Hutash was married to the Sky Snake (The Milky Way), who made lightning with his tongue and gave the people their first fire. The people kept the fire burning to stay warm and cook their food. Since the people were getting more comfortable, their population grew until the Island became too crowded.
They also made so much noise that Hutash could not get any sleep, so she decided it was time to allow some of the people to cross over to the mainland. Hutash made Wishtoyo, a Rainbow Bridge which extended from the tallest peak of the Island to the tallest inland mountain near Carpinteria. She told the people to cross carefully, and to never look down, but some did, and fell off the Rainbow Bridge and into the ocean, where they were turned into dolphins by Hutash to prevent them from drowning. This is why the Chumash Indians consider the dolphins to be their brothers. The Chumash honor Hutash every September with a great Harvest Festival named after her.
They also made so much noise that Hutash could not get any sleep, so she decided it was time to allow some of the people to cross over to the mainland. Hutash made Wishtoyo, a Rainbow Bridge which extended from the tallest peak of the Island to the tallest inland mountain near Carpinteria. She told the people to cross carefully, and to never look down, but some did, and fell off the Rainbow Bridge and into the ocean, where they were turned into dolphins by Hutash to prevent them from drowning. This is why the Chumash Indians consider the dolphins to be their brothers. The Chumash honor Hutash every September with a great Harvest Festival named after her.
www.indianlegend.com/chumash/chumash_001.htm
Neat!
As for whether or not
The Templeton Foundation, a major supporter of projects seeking to reconcile science and religion, says that after providing a few grants for conferences and courses to debate intelligent design, they asked proponents to submit proposals for actual research.
"They never came in," said Charles L. Harper Jr., senior vice president at the Templeton Foundation, who said that while he was skeptical from the beginning, other foundation officials were initially intrigued and later grew disillusioned.
"From the point of view of rigor and intellectual seriousness, the intelligent design people don't come out very well in our world of scientific review," he said.
"They never came in," said Charles L. Harper Jr., senior vice president at the Templeton Foundation, who said that while he was skeptical from the beginning, other foundation officials were initially intrigued and later grew disillusioned.
"From the point of view of rigor and intellectual seriousness, the intelligent design people don't come out very well in our world of scientific review," he said.
www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/weekinreview/04good.html
And while there are a handful of peer reviewed papers and books on ID, they rarely contain original research. It seems to me that if ID proponents want to change the conversation we're having or get their views in the classroom then they need to work on beginning to change the scientific paradigm in academia first. But that probably won't happen since ID proponents don't appear to be interested in actually doing science. Instead, they seem to prefer to complain to Ben Stein about how they're being somehow persecuted in a misleading documentary.
Peace