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Post by kowai on Nov 27, 2011 13:33:41 GMT
100% atheist and yes I will take that bet.
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Post by dawnus on Nov 28, 2011 19:53:07 GMT
I've never come across an atheist who would be willing to take such a bet. I would also take that bet. There you are, now you've come across three of us! D
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Post by flyingteapot on Nov 29, 2011 22:14:07 GMT
If you call yourself an atheist, answer this : Would you be willing right now to bet the lives of everyone you know that there's nothing after death? you seem to be confused as to what atheism means,
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Post by Magilla on Dec 1, 2011 0:17:30 GMT
If you call yourself an atheist, answer this : Would you be willing right now to bet the lives of everyone you know that there's nothing after death? Yes. If I'm wrong they'd technically still be alive! ;D Having come back, and read your comment xXx_[SSJ]St. Drizzt_xXx , I realise that the OP is ambiguous. If I take the bet that there is no life after death, is it that:- (1) I'm wrong and . . . a) Everyone I know lives on till they die as they would have, had I not bet, and then have an after life; b) Everyone I know instantly dies, and then go straight to the after life; c) Something else. (2) I'm right and . . . a) Everyone I know lives on till they die as they would have, had I not bet, and do not have an after life; b) Everyone I know instantly dies, and then goes straight to oblivion; c) Something else. And there are problems with all of that. Who do I know? Do I know all of the actors I've ever seen in movies /plays etc. - I could name a lot of them, and tell you something about them. Same for many world leaders, and other well know figures. Do I know them? Who qualifies as someone I know. Do I have to love these people who are the stake in my bet? Do I know when I am in love with someone even? What kind of love would it have to be? If I am wrong and there is an afterlife, would some of the people be glad to get there? Or would all of these people get to a horrible afterlife that they would not want? Do I know and/or love myself? Am I included in this wager? As someone has pointed out, it is logically possible to be an atheist and still believe in an afterlife - Buddhists do, yet believe in no personal god. The OP is really rather silly when you think about it.
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Post by supernaut on Dec 1, 2011 1:41:55 GMT
Christ on a cracker...can someone just ban the OP?
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Post by davka on Dec 11, 2011 5:10:51 GMT
OK, that will be quite enough of this bullshit.
A-theism = not-theism.
I don't believe in god(s). I'm an atheist.
You (presumably) don't believe in the Easter Bunny. You're an a-bunnyist.
Are you willing to bet your life and the lives of everyone you know that there is no Easter Bunny?
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Post by Magilla on Dec 13, 2011 0:17:56 GMT
OP didn't say that there is no god; it said: "that there's nothing after death"
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Post by kali on Dec 16, 2011 17:10:49 GMT
If you call yourself an atheist, answer this : Would you be willing right now to bet the lives of everyone you know that there's nothing after death? even if that was possible, why would anyone do it? atheism isn't about telling other people there is nothing after death, so the question is retarded.
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Post by Bayes on Dec 16, 2011 21:21:38 GMT
If you call yourself an atheist, answer this : Would you be willing right now to bet the lives of everyone you know that there's nothing after death? even if that was possible, why would anyone do it? atheism isn't about telling other people there is nothing after death, so the question is retarded. It is for many atheists. Richard Dawkins, for example, is strongly in favor of converting others to Atheism.
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Post by kali on Dec 16, 2011 21:56:29 GMT
read the thread title, dude
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Post by roadwarrior on Dec 16, 2011 22:24:23 GMT
100% atheist and yes I will take that bet. Good luck collecting on it! ;D
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Post by roadwarrior on Dec 16, 2011 22:27:59 GMT
even if that was possible, why would anyone do it? atheism isn't about telling other people there is nothing after death, so the question is retarded. It is for many atheists. Richard Dawkins, for example, is strongly in favor of converting others to Atheism. Agreed. In fact, Dawkin's belief scale shows how atheism itself resembles a religion with it's beliefs. Just as this bet is impossible to prove or collect upon, at least in this mortal life, it is impossible to prove there is or is no god(s). Using the Scientific Method, the only proper conclusion is "I don't know for lack of evidence either way".
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Post by pandarius on Dec 18, 2011 17:14:34 GMT
It is for many atheists. Richard Dawkins, for example, is strongly in favor of converting others to Atheism. Agreed. In fact, Dawkin's belief scale shows how atheism itself resembles a religion with it's beliefs. Just as this bet is impossible to prove or collect upon, at least in this mortal life, it is impossible to prove there is or is no god(s). Using the Scientific Method, the only proper conclusion is "I don't know for lack of evidence either way". Dawkins said that he is only a 6 out of 10 on his scale of belief. He says that there is absolutely no evidence for or against the existence of a god, and he finds it unlikely, but it's impossible to be completely sure.
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Post by roadwarrior on Dec 18, 2011 17:34:06 GMT
Dawkins said that he is only a 6 out of 10 on his scale of belief. He says that there is absolutely no evidence for or against the existence of a god, and he finds it unlikely, but it's impossible to be completely sure. First, it's a 7 point scale and, second, Dawkins declares himself to be a 6.9, which, according to his own scale is closer to "I know" than "I don't know for certain". His own words: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fUYUvvJiW0#t=2m11s
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Post by pandarius on Dec 18, 2011 23:19:27 GMT
Dawkins said that he is only a 6 out of 10 on his scale of belief. He says that there is absolutely no evidence for or against the existence of a god, and he finds it unlikely, but it's impossible to be completely sure. First, it's a 7 point scale and, second, Dawkins declares himself to be a 6.9, which, according to his own scale is closer to "I know" than "I don't know for certain". His own words: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fUYUvvJiW0#t=2m11sOk, point taken on the numbers, but regardless of how close he is to sure, he still isn't, without evidence
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