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Post by Greatestiam on Jan 31, 2012 17:51:05 GMT
Who are more moral? Men or women? I am not an atheist but am a man who, thanks to apotheosis, believes himself to have high morals. Perhaps even superior to women. I will take the Jewish view of Eden as man’s elevation as opposed to the Christian view that Eden was man’s fall. I do this because the Jewish view was the initial view of their scriptures. I give their view more authority than I do to Christianity. That Jewish view was later reversed by Christianity. Why Christianity did this is not clear. www.mrrena.com/misc/judaism2.phpFor this mental exercise, I say women are more moral than men. I take this view because teaching a topic is the best way to learn it, and that most of the child rearing/teaching in that day was done by women. Women then, teaching children their first morals, would also teach themselves morals faster than what men would. I do not read scriptures literally but will use the literal view and my logic trail and progression through Eden as if I do. Eve was first to eat of the tree of knowledge, and as scriptures states, became as God. That is, she developed the same moral sense as God. She then recognized that instead of leaving Adam to follow God’s instruction to not eat, she chose, with her new wisdom, to have Adam also eat of the tree of knowledge. Thus both were elevated to having a moral sense. Is the Jewish view the correct one? Who should lead mankind in religious and political thinking? Who are more moral? Men or women? Regards DL
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Post by Bayes on Feb 1, 2012 17:32:52 GMT
This is an interesting question. Even if Eve ate the apple first however Adam also ate it which would elevate him to the same moral plane. Women may have been morally superior for a brief period, but men were equally elevated. There's no statement that the power of the apple degraded with time.
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Post by Greatestiam on Feb 8, 2012 20:56:20 GMT
This is an interesting question. Even if Eve ate the apple first however Adam also ate it which would elevate him to the same moral plane. Women may have been morally superior for a brief period, but men were equally elevated. There's no statement that the power of the apple degraded with time. True. Women still learn earlier in life what they end up teaching men and experience tells me that the more you teach, the more you will also learn. From this usual good start in the home, men then learn from others outside of the home. We like to blame testosterone for the later immorality but I do not buy it. If men of today were moral, they would be pushing for equality of the sexes and the fact that they have the power and do so and do not shows beyond a doubt that the present morality of men suck and by men holding this ground, whatever improvements women can do will never be known. Men in wasting this resource show just how foolish and immoral we are. Regards DL
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Post by hemlock on Feb 11, 2012 14:49:48 GMT
Neither men nor women are more moral. Might be more warm and fuzzy to think of women being all nurturing but realistically we are all flawed human beings.
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Post by Greatestiam on Feb 17, 2012 19:03:45 GMT
Neither men nor women are more moral. Might be more warm and fuzzy to think of women being all nurturing but realistically we are all flawed human beings. True but if we use male and female equality as a measure of morality, and we remember that in both the political and religious realms, all run by men, equality has been put aside, then we can say that as a group, men are less moral than women. If you believe in equality that is. Regards DL
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Post by Bayes on Feb 18, 2012 19:02:54 GMT
Neither men nor women are more moral. Might be more warm and fuzzy to think of women being all nurturing but realistically we are all flawed human beings. True but if we use male and female equality as a measure of morality, and we remember that in both the political and religious realms, all run by men, equality has been put aside, then we can say that as a group, men are less moral than women. If you believe in equality that is. Regards DL We can only say that because traditionally men have held power more than women have. If we look at situations in which women are in power they tend to be just as exclusive.
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Post by Greatestiam on Feb 19, 2012 20:11:04 GMT
True but if we use male and female equality as a measure of morality, and we remember that in both the political and religious realms, all run by men, equality has been put aside, then we can say that as a group, men are less moral than women. If you believe in equality that is. Regards DL We can only say that because traditionally men have held power more than women have. If we look at situations in which women are in power they tend to be just as exclusive. The only society that I know of where women ruled for a long time is Egypt. At the time, it was known as the most equal nation on earth and it worked well for many generations. Do you believe in equality or not? Regards DL
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