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Post by rjh01 on Mar 28, 2012 2:56:25 GMT
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Bayes
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Post by Bayes on Apr 3, 2012 22:56:49 GMT
Institutionalized racism is not ok, however insulating Muslims from "homosexuality" promotes homophobia, which is also not ok. Muslim immigrants into Britain should be expected to integrate into British society in certain respects and tolerance for homosexuals is definitely one way in which they need to integrate.
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Post by rns on Apr 21, 2012 22:59:46 GMT
I actually found this pretty offensive. This is coming from someone of biracial, bilingual background who grew up in England.
Some of the comments from this article (or whatever it is) are racist ("He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit"), and other stuff is simply intolerant (like the bit about Romeo & Juliet).
British schooling has nothing to do with the prevalence of english across the world.
stop whining. are you seriously complaining that schools in ENGLAND teach in ENGLISH?! you complain that children are encouraged to all speak the same language ("The teachers even discourage children to speak their languages at schools") and complain that there isn't enough integration. You say that Shakespeare shouldn't be taught in English class? Is this a joke? Coming from someone who claims they are advocating tolerance and respect.
I don't understand how people can have the audacity to believe that they are so special that they deserve special treatment over the rest of us. And this is coming from someone with not one drop of English blood!
"They must make sure that Bilingual Muslims children have a right, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum" No, they shouldn't. If you want to pass on these traits, you should do it at home via parents like everyone else.
Frankly I'm not surprised that you are finding it hard to integrate when you clearly don't want to be a part of the British culture and from what you have written, clearly see the English as inferior to muslims.
"Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers." Clearly the solution is that these students should not be taught in england. Why shouldn't the bhuddists have their own teachers? Or the Hindu's? Get your head out of your arse and stop loving yourself so much, it's excruciating to watch.
I seriously think that if this is how low you see us (again coming from the child of immigrants) then maybe you should go off to somewhere that will live up to your standards. You are not looking for integration and accommodation but the islamification of england. Countless other cultures and races (e.g. the jews and indians) have integrated fine over the years, why are you making such a drama about this now?
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Post by Bayes on Apr 26, 2012 6:54:05 GMT
Islam is not a race. Being prejudiced against Muslims is not racism.
Islam is certainly the traditional religion of several races, Arabs, Persians, etc, however intolerance of a religion is not the same as racism and Islam is open to all races.
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Post by rns on Apr 27, 2012 10:20:07 GMT
I don't see how segregating yourselves (by creating schools just for muslims and with different syllabuses) will help with the problems you have described, such as the racism etc.
My second point consists of two subpoints: 2i. Why do you think the state (i.e. everyone's tax money) should be spent on things which soley benefit the muslim community.
2ii. Why are you only advocating an improvement in education just for muslims. You described some englsih schools as "sink schools". If this is the case, then why is it only the muslim pupils that deserve a better education.
Lastly, I don't believe it is the education systems duty to teach things such as specific languages catering to only a small percentage of the population, faith, culture etc. These are all things that have traditionally been passed on in the home and frankly I don't believe have a place in schools since children would then be subjected to it without choice.
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