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Post by Ambrose Yarwood on Nov 30, 2011 17:04:27 GMT
Ksen's suspension will be discussed here. Ksen, the floor is yours.
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Post by charlie on Nov 30, 2011 17:50:46 GMT
Why was he suspended?
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Post by ksen on Nov 30, 2011 21:07:22 GMT
What do you want to discuss?
That suspending someone for posting "bollocks" in response to a mod personally attacking someone else for posting "bollocks" is stupid?
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Post by Ambrose Yarwood on Nov 30, 2011 21:09:16 GMT
What do you want to discuss? That suspending someone for posting "bollocks" in response to a mod personally attacking someone else for posting "bollocks" is stupid? What is it about Sergeant Hartman's warning to cuckingfunt that you consider to be an attack?
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Post by ksen on Nov 30, 2011 21:12:44 GMT
He went after cuckingfunt for "being up his nose." That sounds like Hartman was modding from emotion and not from what is actually in the rules.
Are mod actions supposed to be non-discussable on this forum? If they do something we think is retarded will we not be able to comment so?
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Post by charlie on Nov 30, 2011 21:14:37 GMT
hey, I gave sgt hartman a smite and it disappeared. Are members not allowed to smite mods? If this needs to go in a different forum let me know.
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Post by ksen on Nov 30, 2011 21:16:20 GMT
lol
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Post by Ambrose Yarwood on Nov 30, 2011 21:22:32 GMT
He went after cuckingfunt for "being up his nose." That sounds like Hartman was modding from emotion and not from what is actually in the rules. Are mod actions supposed to be non-discussable on this forum? If they do something we think is retarded will we not be able to comment so? Sergeant Hartman was irritated by cuckingfunt's posts. The reason why he was getting irritated by them was that they were consistently either aggressive or just plain antagonistic. That was what was getting up his nose. Hartman was becoming irritated by the fact that cuckingfunt was basically trolling this forum. Regardless of whether he expressed his warning in terms of how cuckingfunt's trolling was making him feel, or if he expressed it in a purely technical way, the fact remains that cuckingfunt was trolling. There's nothing that changes this fact. Take a look at cuckingfunt's posts for yourself. Sergeant Hartman dislikes trolling. Mod actions are discussable. They were discussed yesterday and they're being discussed now. Another question : Do you think cuckingfunt was trolling?
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Post by Ambrose Yarwood on Nov 30, 2011 21:25:43 GMT
hey, I gave sgt hartman a smite and it disappeared. Are members not allowed to smite mods? If this needs to go in a different forum let me know. Fixed. And I'll look into that.
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Post by ksen on Nov 30, 2011 21:30:43 GMT
He went after cuckingfunt for "being up his nose." That sounds like Hartman was modding from emotion and not from what is actually in the rules. Are mod actions supposed to be non-discussable on this forum? If they do something we think is retarded will we not be able to comment so? Sergeant Hartman was irritated by cuckingfunt's posts. The reason why he was getting irritated by them was that they were consistently either aggressive or just plain antagonistic. That was what was getting up his nose. Hartman was becoming irritated by the fact that cuckingfunt was basically trolling this forum. Regardless of whether he expressed his warning in terms of how cuckingfunt's trolling was making him feel, or if he expressed it in a purely technical way, the fact remains that cuckingfunt was trolling. There's nothing that changes this fact. Take a look at cuckingfunt's posts for yourself. Sergeant Hartman dislikes trolling. So cuckingfunt was allowed to exhibit a pattern of trolling but I was suspended after only one post? One post hardly seems like enough to determine if I was exhibiting a pattern of trolling. I don't care how Hartman "felt." If he can't disengage his emotions while performing his mod duties then imo he is unfit to be a mod. Well, about 4 posts were allowed to be made before Hartman unilaterally decided to close the thread. Not another good indicator on Hartman's account. In the post Hartman went off on? No. He was expressing his opinion that what the other poster had said was just a bunch of nonsense. Are you guys trying to mod out any form of extreme emotion from this board . . . well other than Hartman's extreme emotions which he is apparently able to vent over whatever hapless member happens to be in his sight?
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Post by Ambrose Yarwood on Nov 30, 2011 21:44:01 GMT
Ksen really, take a look at cuckingfunt's posting record. Click on his name and look at it. Can you not see a pattern? The sergeant did and I've seen it too. If you don't look at at his posting record you won't know what I mean. Only if you do will you realise why the sergeant was becoming sick and tired of him.
And I ask you once again in light of his posting record, do you think cuckingfunt was trolling? And why did you post "bollocks"? What were you objecting to or disagreeing with exactly? You have never clarified.
And again, regardless of the manner in which the warning to cuckingfunt was expressed, the fact was that he was trolling. You can't get away from this.
What I'm trying to establish is that cuckingfunt was definitely trolling and that he definitely deserved a pretty stern warning. Now let's talk about you and what you did.
Cuckingfunt posted "bollocks". The sergeant gave him a warning. You then came along and posted "bollocks" yourself in response to that warning. Yes, it was only 1 post rather than a string of posts, but in that 1 post you effectively said to the sergeant "fuck you and your warning". If you're a moderator and you give someone a warning and then someone else comes up and does the same thing, you're not going to take that lightly. Let me make this clear : You weren't suspended because of what you said. Cuckingfunt wasn't even suspended for it. You were suspended because you effectively told a moderator to shove his rules and his warning. I'm sorry but we can't have that.
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Post by Manuel Ortega on Nov 30, 2011 21:56:01 GMT
I don't know the whole story but I've just looked at cuckingfunt's previous posts. It's not looking good. Although I think that Hartman's warning was very aggressive, a warning was appropriate. But what I don't understand is what Ksen's issue is. Ksen why are you so disgruntled? Do you feel that there's double standards? What if Hartman had given you a warning rather than a suspension?
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Post by ksen on Nov 30, 2011 21:56:52 GMT
lol, so mods can go off on members and remove negative rep but if a board member challenges them it's the board member that's a troll and must be dealt with. This forum is going to be a fucking joke where authoritarian dicks like hartman are allowed to run roughshod over the members without the members having any recourse since you are obviously just going to back up your buddy.
Don't worry, I will save you the trouble of resuspending me because I am off to deactivate my account right now.
Oh, and you haven't addressed Hartman closing the thread where 4 posts of discussion about his mod actions was allowed.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman on Nov 30, 2011 22:27:05 GMT
Ksen, have you got any idea of the kinds of posts that cuckingfunt was making? Did you even take a look at what he had posted previously and why he was becoming a concern not just to me but to Ambrose? Do you even give a rat's ass? Or does the world revolve around you and your whining and your selfishness? Don't you dare talk to me about what's right and what's wrong when right after I give a troll a well deserved warning you think it's cute to do the very thing that I'm issuing a warning for. We've seen you whine and cry about being suspended yet we've seen nothing in the way of an explanation as to why you posted what you did. Why did you post "bollocks" Ksen? Why? Was it because you felt that I was being unfair with cuckingfunt? Well if anything is bollocks, that is. You're a liar and I see through you. You're a spineless coward who wants it all their way, but guess what buddy, in the real world that isn't going to happen. You mess up, you pay. Your 1 week suspension is still going but I'm this close to making it much longer. You're in no position to preach to me about closing threads, giving warnings, or issuing suspensions. Under different circumstances I would gladly have defended you against trolls but you're too damn selfish to even conceive of that. And you can pass that on to your scumbag buddies over at that cesspit that is TalkRational, with its hypocritical spineless so called moderators.
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