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Post by waymarker on Nov 20, 2011 1:45:52 GMT
Our eyes and brain tells us these wheels are revolving, but they're not! So how can we trust our senses to tell us what's real and what's not about anything?
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Bayes
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Post by Bayes on Nov 20, 2011 4:13:23 GMT
yes they are. So are you as a matter of fact. You are revolving around the center of the earth, you're also revolving around the Sun, and around the center of the galaxy. So are they.
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Post by pinchbeck on Nov 20, 2011 13:06:48 GMT
I think the point being made here is that our perceptions aren't that sophisticated. We see what we want to see, and we don't always see the whole of what's there. This has major implications on the way science is done.
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B
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Post by B on Nov 20, 2011 13:31:49 GMT
Huge difference between visual illusions and actually experimenting and seeing verifiable results. Just saying. And to answer the topic question: "The world or the state of things as they actually exist."
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Post by xXx_[SSJ] St. Drizzt_xXx on Nov 26, 2011 18:37:43 GMT
You're right! I'm going to convert right now!
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Post by Magilla on Nov 28, 2011 0:23:12 GMT
Science is a good way to find out about reality - see definition by B. One of the tenets in science is to be aware of illusions and eliminate them. The apparently rotating discs in the graphic can be shown to be not rotating. Thus the illusion is interesting, but does not fool us into thinking that they are rotating. We can see through the illusion.
On the other hand, a more interesting question is to answer WHY, to the human visual system, those discs look like they are rotating. The answer to that leads us even closer to reality, in this case about our visual system.
I concede that there may be some misapprehensions we currently have about reality, which when discovered, will be corrected. Of course our understanding of reality is always limited by our humanity, (sensory organs and brains), and the equipment we have invented, (eg. microscopes / telescopes etc.) to help us understand things better.
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Post by ferryman on Dec 18, 2011 1:34:35 GMT
Our eyes and brain tells us these wheels are revolving, but they're not! So how can we trust our senses to tell us what's real and what's not about anything? Not the stuff you spout thats for sure.
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nick
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Post by nick on Dec 19, 2011 20:12:55 GMT
Made me think pretty hard....
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Post by Worldquest on Dec 20, 2011 1:19:46 GMT
Our eyes and brain tells us these wheels are revolving, but they're not! So how can we trust our senses to tell us what's real and what's not about anything? Not the stuff you spout thats for sure. Why do you have to be rude? If you disagree with something why not just say what you disagree with?
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Post by ferryman on Dec 20, 2011 1:41:52 GMT
Because you don't know this guy the way I do......
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Post by waymarker on Jan 13, 2012 1:10:49 GMT
No wonder Ferryman has got the sulks, he hangs at the David Icke board where i've been beating him in debates and telling him to go sit on the naughty step for a long time..
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Post by ferryman on Jan 16, 2012 23:20:34 GMT
No wonder Ferryman has got the sulks, he hangs at the David Icke board where i've been beating him in debates and telling him to go sit on the naughty step for a long time.. You could not beat your way out of a WET PAPER BAG Douche BAG!
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Post by paarsurrey on Jan 23, 2012 22:15:14 GMT
Our eyes and brain tells us these wheels are revolving, but they're not! So how can we trust our senses to tell us what's real and what's not about anything? We can have illusions; that is alright.
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Post by paarsurrey on Jan 23, 2012 22:17:45 GMT
I think the point being made here is that our perceptions aren't that sophisticated. We see what we want to see, and we don't always see the whole of what's there. This has major implications on the way science is done. Reason is conjugal or always works with the other partner. Like our eyes cannot see withou light. If there would be pitch dark; we can see nothing.
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rns
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Post by rns on Apr 21, 2012 18:34:42 GMT
Our eyes and brain tells us these wheels are revolving, but they're not! So how can we trust our senses to tell us what's real and what's not about anything? Why is this important? Either it's real or it's not, but if you perceive it to be real then it may as well be. What's the difference? Have you encountered problems because of this or something?
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